@ This file written with the Avid Caption plugin, version 1 01:01:39:01 01:01:40:02 Fred? -Yeah... 01:01:40:20 01:01:42:02 Hi. -Hi there. 01:01:42:08 01:01:42:24 Hello. 01:01:43:08 01:01:48:05 That’s... These are two young fellows from Film Academy in Ludwigsburg. 01:01:48:13 01:01:50:14 They’re making one of those documentary films. 01:01:50:21 01:01:52:20 That’ll be their PhD thesis. 01:01:53:06 01:01:58:12 They asked me if they could join me picking up the boxes, so I said sure, no problem. 01:01:58:23 01:02:00:02 Let’s do it! -Let’s do it. 01:02:07:02 01:02:09:02 Can you get one of those down… 01:02:12:08 01:02:14:16 Connections – that’s half the battle, boys. Keep that in mind! 01:02:17:05 01:02:18:02 Thanks a whole lot! 01:02:18:17 01:02:20:16 All the best. 01:02:39:15 01:02:48:02 Alright... When the first refugees arrive next Tuesday, they'll pass this gate. 01:02:48:21 01:02:55:13 The fence will be closed up, there's gonna be a temporary container for the security staff. 01:02:56:05 01:03:00:24 Of course we’re trying to create an atmosphere as comfortable as possible. 01:03:01:02 01:03:03:16 But these are former military barracks, 01:03:03:19 01:03:07:00 the army atmosphere won’t be covered up completely, 01:03:07:03 01:03:14:16 still we'll try to welcome those people and make their stay as comfortable as possible. 01:03:15:00 01:03:17:17 Afterwards, they'll pass this street. 01:03:21:18 01:03:23:16 We're currently still building it up. 01:03:24:06 01:03:28:00 So here will be... European Homecare’s employees are based here. 01:03:28:13 01:03:32:06 They'll register the people accordingly, 01:03:32:12 01:03:36:17 check if everybody was in the bus who was supposed to be in there. 01:03:37:00 01:03:43:04 We still assume we won't be occupied with more than 1000 people, 01:03:43:09 01:03:48:12 that's what was promised to the locals by the officials, 01:03:49:02 01:03:53:17 so right now I assume there won't be more. We don’t know how the situation will then develop, 01:03:53:21 01:03:57:20 if more emergency camps in winter will be necessary, 01:03:57:22 01:04:01:12 we might have better options here 01:04:01:19 01:04:10:10 concerning accommodation capacities and, let's say, quality wise, it might be a little better here. 01:04:10:15 01:04:13:19 But the way things stand at the moment, 1000 people maximum. 01:04:14:02 01:04:15:24 We’ll see. 01:04:51:12 01:04:53:14 I grew up here in Meßstetten. 01:04:53:21 01:04:58:24 Later I was apprenticed to Maier & Cie. – that’s a big knitwear manufacturer. 01:04:59:11 01:05:05:09 And on the 2nd of January 1978 I was drafted to do my basic military service. 01:05:06:04 01:05:10:01 Somehow I got stuck with the army. First a couple of times as short-service volunteer, 01:05:10:04 01:05:12:00 4 years, 8 years, 12 years… 01:05:12:17 01:05:16:15 Until I applied as a lifer, which worked out without any problems, 01:05:16:16 01:05:24:01 and well, I served the army 34 years here at Geißbühl in the former Zollernalb-Barracks. 01:05:24:04 01:05:28:07 That’s my personal background up to today. 01:05:34:10 01:05:39:19 We’ve actually never had anything to do with refugees here in Meßstetten. 01:05:39:24 01:05:46:11 But as Syria and Afghanistan were all over the news, and you could see what’s actually happening there, 01:05:46:16 01:05:50:13 that they really need help, 01:05:50:16 01:05:56:04 I figured they're people like you and me and we just have to help them! 01:06:24:14 01:06:28:12 I am Katrin Schmitz from European Homecare, based in Essen 01:06:28:17 01:06:32:18 and we're assigned by the authorities in Karlsruhe and Tübingen 01:06:32:21 01:06:35:22 to run and take care of the reception center here in Meßstetten. 01:06:36:18 01:06:40:22 We do this for asylum seekers and homeless people all over Germany, 01:06:41:07 01:06:47:01 little local facilities with 20 persons as well as big facilities, like the reception center here, 01:06:47:10 01:06:49:18 that is to shelter 1000 people. 01:06:50:14 01:06:54:19 Furthermore we're in charge of daily-life-caretaking, as we like to call it, 01:06:54:22 01:06:57:21 that's anything concerning daily life in the facility. 01:06:58:10 01:07:03:01 Here in Meßstetten, the big difference is that everything for the asylum procedure, 01:07:03:04 01:07:05:03 is already happening right here in-house. 01:07:05:12 01:07:09:13 Now, that’s the basic information. Any questions? Feel free to ask! 01:07:10:18 01:07:14:12 Are the grounds actually open for interested people to take a look 01:07:14:19 01:07:18:07 or do you have to wear certain badges or something to get in, 01:07:18:21 01:07:19:23 or what’s the plan? 01:07:20:22 01:07:25:01 It would be pretty important for us to know, whether we can include the gym in our plans, 01:07:25:17 01:07:31:06 because it hasn’t been cleaned since 30th of june and it looks accordingly. 01:07:31:15 01:07:34:08 If it stays like that, we obviously can’t use it. 01:07:34:21 01:07:39:10 I’ve got another question. In Bueloch, for example, there's one family I know of. 01:07:40:07 01:07:45:21 And they're… They don’t speak any… They speak no German at all. 01:07:46:01 01:07:47:04 They can’t do anything. 01:07:47:14 01:07:49:18 It’s a family of five, living in Bueloch. 01:07:50:01 01:07:55:05 If they have difficulties, could we hook them up with the reception center or would you consider that… 01:07:56:01 01:07:57:12 They’re also asylum seekers. 01:07:58:11 01:07:59:06 I saw it. 01:07:59:06 01:08:05:22 One issue throughout all previous meetings was the military training ground located nearby 01:08:06:03 01:08:12:12 and we wanted to get in touch with them and see if they could keep it down a little, 01:08:12:20 01:08:15:12 have they gotten back to us? 01:08:16:07 01:08:20:11 What I'm missing in terms of key aspects, just like language, is quality management. 01:08:20:16 01:08:24:02 Regardless of where I look for it… and this is mainly concerning European Homecare. 01:08:26:12 01:08:30:12 Apparently, there seem to be no quality standards. 01:08:30:21 01:08:34:04 At least, I can’t find the quality regulations anywhere. 01:08:34:07 01:08:39:22 What are the refugee’s rights granted by the German Federal Republic? 01:08:40:06 01:08:43:06 On 20th of September, for example, you advertised two vacancies online. 01:08:43:20 01:08:45:16 Both were sponsor jobs. 01:08:46:02 01:08:51:08 Qualification requirements were an old category three driving license, transporting license for up to eight people. 01:08:52:12 01:08:55:06 German and English language skills. 01:08:55:20 01:09:01:06 And the contracts were limited for one year. 01:09:01:09 01:09:05:13 If you’ll really find a qualified person for that job, hats off! 01:09:06:12 01:09:13:08 I beg you to please not make economies, but to get a little more quality into the whole thing. 01:09:13:11 01:09:18:01 Of course one task is to make money, but another task should be to ensure that the money is invested correctly. 01:09:45:05 01:09:49:01 So, 40 years ago we started farming here 01:09:49:04 01:09:52:16 and 39 years ago, in 1975 we started building our house here. 01:09:53:19 01:09:56:11 We never had a fence and everything had always just been open. 01:09:57:11 01:09:58:21 There weren’t any problems. 01:09:59:19 01:10:02:24 Well, the only worry was something might happen when we weren’t around 01:10:03:02 01:10:06:17 as then I would be responsible, even if I couldn’t do anything about it, but still... 01:10:07:16 01:10:11:10 Eventually the Veterinary Office pressed the matter. 01:10:18:07 01:10:20:00 To us the fence only means more work. 01:10:21:00 01:10:23:15 For example we’ll have to mow around it. 01:10:24:07 01:10:26:16 Also with the gates, we used to be able to just exit the farm, 01:10:26:21 01:10:30:09 we still have no clue how that'll be in the future. 01:10:31:23 01:10:35:13 What actually surprised me was they built a second fence inside the barracks. 01:10:35:17 01:10:41:04 So once that one came, I thought, well, if they are fencing in the barracks within the other fence, 01:10:42:02 01:10:45:02 this one doesn’t really make a difference anymore. 01:11:05:16 01:11:11:06 When I came to Meßstetten in 1974, many people were growing potatoes. 01:11:12:05 01:11:14:11 Back then, the tanks would shoot from the external shooting positions. 01:11:15:08 01:11:17:22 So the missiles flew over one’s heads. 01:11:18:10 01:11:20:22 You’d have launch and detonation. 01:11:23:12 01:11:25:02 Like a live show. 01:11:25:13 01:11:27:01 They shot over this place? 01:11:27:07 01:11:29:18 There are a couple of external firing positions 01:11:29:20 01:11:32:08 and they actually shot into the training ground from there. 01:11:33:02 01:11:37:16 Well, there was always something going on, so in that way it’s been rather quiet the last years. 01:11:39:04 01:11:40:17 Well, let's hope for the best. 01:11:41:12 01:11:43:17 Yesterday I was at the congregation with the District Administrator. 01:11:44:13 01:11:47:08 He said Meßstetten wasn’t the perfect location 01:11:47:11 01:11:51:22 because of the military training ground, as they are traumatized – the Syrians and so on. 01:11:53:24 01:11:55:18 Well, we knew that before, but… 01:12:24:07 01:12:27:01 They get money and still they have to steal. 01:12:28:18 01:12:31:13 Boy, are we scared in Oberdigisheim. 01:12:31:20 01:12:33:11 You've got no idea! 01:12:35:17 01:12:37:01 -What happened? 01:12:38:16 01:12:44:14 There were two of them with a buggy, and a couple of young lads, and smaller children, 01:12:44:19 01:12:47:09 in the supermarket. 01:12:48:06 01:12:50:02 They probably… 01:12:52:22 01:12:58:03 They have this buggy, one of those strollers, with a child in it who could actually walk. 01:12:58:20 01:13:00:22 You can hide a lot in there. 01:13:05:13 01:13:09:01 It was even on television, that… 01:13:10:05 01:13:13:20 Yesterday in the evening or this morning they had in on TV. 01:13:13:23 01:13:18:07 In some village, they rented a house just for children, 01:13:18:19 01:13:24:14 between the ages of 12 and 18, or maybe 16, who had already burgled us before… 01:13:24:19 01:13:27:23 Not exactly us… but they had committed crimes before. 01:13:28:10 01:13:31:17 Guess how scared people there must be right now. 01:13:32:03 01:13:36:03 It’s just that… Let’s say… 01:13:36:06 01:13:39:10 I don’t wanna lump them all together, 01:13:39:19 01:13:44:15 but most of them come from poverty and here, they can just do whatever they like. 01:13:44:18 01:13:46:09 They get it blown up their butts. 01:13:47:17 01:13:51:04 Look, if you’re from the newspapers or whatever… 01:13:51:13 01:13:56:22 it's the same thing with Germans who need an apartment, 01:13:57:03 01:14:01:02 and already have the certificate or document, that confirms it, 01:14:01:06 01:14:02:24 now they have to stand back. 01:14:03:04 01:14:04:24 That’s insane. 01:14:05:24 01:14:08:18 Excuse me, I’ve got no problems with foreigners, not at all! 01:14:09:05 01:14:12:21 As far as I’m concerned they could be red, black, green or blue. I wouldn’t mind. 01:14:13:02 01:14:17:16 But when you see they get it blown up their behinds and we don't get anything anymore... 01:14:17:20 01:14:21:17 I have to take care of my 90-year-old husband, 01:14:21:23 01:14:25:07 care level three, he was shot in Russia. 01:14:25:17 01:14:27:17 I have to fight for every single penny. 01:14:28:01 01:14:29:18 And they just get it blown up their butts. 01:14:29:21 01:14:35:12 I’m taking care of my husband day and night and I’m put on a 290 euros pension. 01:14:35:18 01:14:38:07 Now you know what gets on my nerves. 01:14:40:13 01:14:43:09 Go ahead and show it on TV. Show it. Cheers. 01:15:06:15 01:15:08:14 A warm welcome here in Meßstetten also on my part. 01:15:08:17 01:15:11:04 As I'm just a guest here today, 01:15:11:12 01:15:13:19 I want to express my thanks for the invitation 01:15:13:23 01:15:17:12 to officially open this reception center. 01:15:17:15 01:15:25:04 Actually it's a prime example for collaboration, first between the Federal Government and the Federal States, 01:15:25:08 01:15:30:13 and within the Federal State between its government, the Regional Council, 01:15:30:16 01:15:34:10 the Administrative District and the Mayor here in Meßstetten. 01:15:35:14 01:15:42:21 I hope that our good collaboration – and there’s absolutely no doubt about it – will be continued 01:15:43:17 01:15:53:02 in order to make Meßstetten the success model it’s been laid out for. 01:15:53:09 01:15:54:06 Thank you very much! 01:16:36:04 01:16:39:14 Wouldn't that be a pretty headline: "Canteen out of food..." 01:16:49:05 01:16:52:12 I was born in 1954, here in Meßstetten. 01:16:52:18 01:16:57:10 1971 I joined the police, 01:16:57:13 01:17:01:24 I've been the head of the criminal investigation department in Albstadt for the last 14 years 01:17:02:07 01:17:04:21 and I was a thoroughbred officer until the end. 01:17:05:21 01:17:12:12 When I retired after 43 years I looked for some other field of activity 01:17:12:15 01:17:19:01 and that’s how I came to the reception center as a volunteer or as coordinator of the voluntary work. 01:17:25:03 01:17:27:03 -What shall we do with those Serbian dinars? 01:17:30:13 01:17:33:01 Put it in the kitty. 01:17:34:06 01:17:36:16 -Should I exchange it at the bank? Let’s see what I’ll get… 01:17:36:19 01:17:39:14 Don’t do it. You’ll probably only get 5 cent out of it… 01:17:40:23 01:17:43:20 Before starting here, I was with the army as a social worker. 01:17:43:23 01:17:48:15 I advised and supported the soldiers 01:17:48:18 01:17:52:08 and looked for help for them for any problematic situation that arose. 01:17:52:21 01:17:56:18 Here it’s more about administration. 01:17:57:11 01:18:01:07 So there’s basically no immediate contact with the client… Or actually that’s not entirely true, 01:18:01:17 01:18:04:21 because I’m coordinating the voluntary work 01:18:05:00 01:18:09:19 and if there are conflicts or tensions between the volunteers 01:18:10:02 01:18:16:17 I try to step in and see if I can get everything back on track. 01:18:17:09 01:18:23:00 We want to keep the volunteers for the whole two years, not just for a shorter period of time. 01:19:20:02 01:19:21:20 Welcome to Meßstetten. 01:19:22:06 01:19:24:12 We'll quickly explain the procedure, 01:19:25:06 01:19:27:16 you'll be allocated to your rooms, 01:19:27:21 01:19:29:24 then, you’ll go into the houses, to your accommodations, 01:19:30:02 01:19:32:20 first the families and then single persons. 01:19:33:22 01:19:36:14 Once that is done, please go to have lunch right away, ok? 01:19:53:07 01:19:58:01 We also have rules here. Please don’t smoke inside the buildings or in your rooms. 01:19:58:04 01:19:59:16 It’s strictly prohibited. 01:19:59:22 01:20:02:04 Alcohol is prohibited on the whole grounds. 01:20:02:07 01:20:04:17 Outside yes, but not on the grounds. 01:20:05:01 01:20:10:24 I’ve got one more request, please keep the sanitary facilities clean – so, the toilets and the showers, ok? 01:20:11:07 01:20:14:20 There are many different nationalities, many, many children, 01:20:15:03 01:20:20:23 so it's very important to keep the buildings clean, especially where you bathe yourselves. 01:20:21:16 01:20:26:07 Then all of you will go – because of your asylum procedure, you'll all have to see the doctor, 01:20:26:12 01:20:28:03 the local health authorities, 01:20:28:07 01:20:33:06 that’s next week on Tuesday. Next week on Tuesday at 7.30 am. 01:20:33:11 01:20:37:05 That's very important for your asylum procedure and for your documents. 01:20:37:15 01:20:39:19 You’ll receive a stamp, you’ve been checked by the doctor. 01:20:39:23 01:20:41:02 Next week on Tuesday. 01:20:41:05 01:20:45:18 Now, we have one last piece of information for you. Two minutes, please, it’s very important! Mr. Ludolph… 01:20:47:07 01:20:48:05 Good day everybody. 01:20:48:15 01:20:51:18 Currently, you’re located in former army barracks. 01:20:52:05 01:20:56:03 If you leave the barracks or the reception center to your left hand side, 01:20:56:07 01:20:59:17 there’s a military training ground 1000 meters away. 01:21:22:17 01:21:25:07 For better orientation on the map: 01:21:27:01 01:21:33:03 This is the reception center in green, the town of Meßstetten in yellow 01:21:33:11 01:21:37:13 and this is the military training ground. 01:21:55:06 01:21:59:17 The borders of the training ground are marked with signs. 01:22:00:09 01:22:05:08 If you see those signs, you’ve gone too far. In that case, just turn around and go back. 01:22:06:11 01:22:12:18 On the training ground they shoot with live ammunition during the whole week, also in the evening or at night. 01:22:13:09 01:22:15:00 Anyway, you’re safe here. 01:22:15:08 01:22:19:00 If you go to Meßstetten to shop, 01:22:19:11 01:22:21:23 even in Germany it gets dark at night. 01:22:22:05 01:22:24:13 Most of the streets are unlit, 01:22:24:16 01:22:29:02 so please stick to the very left or the very right side of the road, 01:22:29:24 01:22:31:21 as all of you are dressed in black, 01:22:31:24 01:22:33:19 so you can be seen more easily. 01:22:33:21 01:22:36:13 We don’t want anyone to get hit by a car. 01:22:36:21 01:22:39:10 And please don’t drop garbage on the street. 01:22:39:15 01:22:41:07 People don’t like that so much out here. 01:22:41:22 01:22:44:16 Because the children behaved so well, I have a “Schlotzer” for them, 01:22:45:01 01:22:46:18 in Swabia this is a “Schlotzer”. 01:23:17:19 01:23:19:21 Wait a second, take those along. 01:23:20:19 01:23:21:22 One, two,… 01:23:28:04 01:23:33:15 We’ll definitely have the maximum of 1000 people before Christmas, 01:23:33:18 01:23:38:22 because yesterday alone, 324 people arrived in Karlsruhe. 01:23:39:07 01:23:42:19 We also have our first transfers coming up. 01:23:42:22 01:23:46:07 This week 50 people will leave the facility again, 01:23:47:01 01:23:50:24 so there will be a constant coming and going of people. 01:23:51:01 01:23:53:17 We’ll take in 250 more people this week 01:23:54:04 01:23:58:03 and like I said 50 people will leave the facility again 01:23:58:05 01:24:02:09 and will be transferred to communal accommodation in various counties. 01:24:50:00 01:24:51:22 We are the Local Heritage and History Club, 01:24:52:00 01:24:53:11 we’re the committee so to say. 01:24:53:18 01:24:56:13 I am the chairman as we like to call it, 01:24:56:19 01:24:58:02 my name is Heinz Roth. 01:24:58:04 01:25:00:15 I'll quickly introduce the others: 01:25:00:24 01:25:02:19 Harald Sauter, 01:25:02:23 01:25:06:14 he's our technician, let’s put it that way. 01:25:06:18 01:25:07:24 He's a member of the committee. 01:25:08:02 01:25:09:15 That’s Wolfgang Rumfeld 01:25:09:20 01:25:11:18 on his right hand side from my point of view, 01:25:11:21 01:25:14:03 he's co-chairman. 01:25:14:06 01:25:16:00 So let’s continue around the table, 01:25:16:04 01:25:18:10 Ernst Blickle – he's our cashier. 01:25:18:15 01:25:21:20 Then, Wilfried Groh, he's our press secretary as well as a member of the committee 01:25:21:23 01:25:27:04 and you could probably say he’s the most experienced historian of us. 01:25:27:07 01:25:30:10 Then we’ll continue behind Wilfried, 01:25:30:13 01:25:32:11 that’s Heinrich Stopper, 01:25:32:14 01:25:35:02 he's also a well-versed historian, 01:25:35:04 01:25:39:14 he wrote the Heimatbuch of the borough of Heinstetten. 01:25:39:20 01:25:42:05 Then Viktor Kapla from Hartheim, 01:25:42:09 01:25:46:08 also one of the boroughs. He’s a member of the committee and our secretary. 01:25:46:11 01:25:50:08 Now, next to him is the only lady, that’s my wife, she isn’t a member of the committee. 01:25:50:11 01:25:51:17 …current advisory board. 01:25:51:23 01:25:55:20 On her left hand side, Karl Ast, he's also a member of the committee 01:25:56:00 01:25:59:16 and it’s fair to say, he's an encyclopedia of the main village of Meßstetten. 01:25:59:21 01:26:04:05 He knows about everything that happened there and all the old family names. 01:26:04:10 01:26:07:12 We exist since 2009, so we’re still quite young. 01:26:07:19 01:26:13:05 And we're eager to process the history of Meßstetten. 01:26:13:08 01:26:16:04 Actually there is a chronicle, but it isn’t completed 01:26:16:08 01:26:18:03 and it just has to be expanded. 01:26:19:16 01:26:24:07 The people of Meßstetten are quite interested in the future of the barracks 01:26:24:14 01:26:28:01 and that of the terrain out there. 01:26:28:04 01:26:34:15 There are… I have to say, it was a pretty sad farewell, when the army left. 01:26:35:02 01:26:37:03 It just has to be said. 01:26:37:07 01:26:39:08 -Everybody’s been affected in some kind of way. 01:26:39:11 01:26:44:16 And me… In my head it’s just not imaginable that it’s to stay like this now, 01:26:44:19 01:26:47:23 but you have to accept it, that’s just how it is. 01:26:48:05 01:26:52:14 And now we’ll have to make the best of it, if there’s to be asylum seekers here for the next two years, 01:26:53:00 01:26:55:22 we’ll have to welcome them and treat them well. 01:26:56:00 01:27:00:16 Whatever will be in two years, we’ll have to wait and see what’s going to happen out there. 01:27:01:11 01:27:04:16 These are political decisions anyways. 01:27:05:00 01:27:07:11 Made by the Federal State. I mean, Meßstetten doesn’t have any say in that. 01:27:08:22 01:27:11:10 Meßstetten didn’t install the reception center, 01:27:11:13 01:27:14:24 the Federal State of Baden-Württemberg installed it. You have to understand that. 01:27:17:15 01:27:18:15 I want to add something. 01:27:19:05 01:27:21:01 As we're a history club, 01:27:21:08 01:27:25:13 we’re used to thinking in larger periods. 01:27:25:17 01:27:32:02 If you know that we… In 1914 we got our military training ground. 01:27:32:18 01:27:34:04 Without asking us. 01:27:34:07 01:27:37:09 Back in the days, it was actually installed against the will of the people, too. 01:27:37:21 01:27:40:08 It is, I believe, 30 square kilometers 01:27:40:24 01:27:45:01 and then we got the barracks in Stetten 100 years ago. 01:27:45:11 01:27:48:22 50 years later, we got barracks here in Meßstetten. 01:27:49:09 01:27:54:03 They helped preparing two World Wars in our region. 01:27:55:11 01:28:00:13 And we all know the number of victims there were, at the time. 01:28:00:16 01:28:04:10 And today we’re facing a situation where we don’t have barracks anymore, 01:28:04:18 01:28:06:01 there are no soldiers anymore, 01:28:06:04 01:28:11:05 but victims from all over the world are coming here to Meßstetten. 01:28:11:13 01:28:15:02 We're experiencing a reversal of the signs here. 01:28:15:10 01:28:19:20 And I think that hopefully we’re far ahead of our time in Meßstetten. 01:28:20:03 01:28:23:10 If there's really something like humanism, 01:28:23:14 01:28:28:12 the idea that humanity is constantly developing towards becoming greater and greater beings 01:28:28:16 01:28:30:03 in respect to their cohabitation, 01:28:30:12 01:28:32:21 I guess we're really ahead of our time. 01:28:32:24 01:28:37:24 We can only hope that more barracks become unnecessary one day. 01:28:39:09 01:28:43:03 Anyway, I think we’re really fine with the situation. 01:29:04:15 01:29:05:23 Here we can also see it, 01:29:07:03 01:29:09:19 Cemetery of the Prisoners of War, Russian Cemetery, 01:29:11:00 01:29:12:17 built in 1915, 01:29:12:20 01:29:17:19 this cemetery is reminiscent of the Camp for Prisoners of War at Heuberg. 01:29:18:10 01:29:20:16 Up to 15.000 prisoners, 01:29:20:23 01:29:23:01 most of them Russian and French, 01:29:23:07 01:29:28:15 but also Italians, Englishmen, Romanians, Serbians and others have been imprisoned here. 01:29:28:19 01:29:34:20 The cemetery was founded on the prisoner’s initiative with the support of the camp’s administration. 01:29:41:16 01:29:44:12 In the background you can hear the training exercises. 01:29:47:18 01:29:49:04 That's machine guns. 01:29:56:04 01:29:59:18 I was away on business twice for the German War Grave Commission, 01:29:59:20 01:30:02:24 once in Southern France, once in Hungary. 01:30:03:20 01:30:05:17 These were different types of cemeteries of course. 01:30:05:21 01:30:07:08 Oh, boy. 01:30:07:13 01:30:11:21 And when you see their age on the tombstones, 01:30:12:00 01:30:14:08 you really start feeling weak on your knees. 01:30:14:11 01:30:17:11 Some of them were even younger than you guys are, 01:30:17:14 01:30:20:05 and they died by the thousands. 01:30:20:07 01:30:23:23 You start wondering, was that really necessary? 01:30:37:16 01:30:40:12 We really racked our brains with a lot of matters, 01:30:40:15 01:30:42:00 but concerning the military training ground: 01:30:42:03 01:30:45:22 it's the only training ground of the German Army in Southern Germany. 01:30:46:05 01:30:49:17 Therefore it's been made very clear to us quite quickly, 01:30:49:20 01:30:54:08 we cannot expect calmer times to come, 01:30:54:10 01:30:56:24 regarding the training exercises. 01:30:57:04 01:31:01:16 I’ve been there a lot, 01:31:01:19 01:31:06:18 visiting the reception center 01:31:06:22 01:31:09:08 during shooting or training exercises. 01:31:09:20 01:31:15:08 I've hardly noticed anyone being really frightened. 01:31:15:11 01:31:24:16 Right at their arrival it’s explained to them, that there’s peaceful training exercises going on that make noises 01:31:25:08 01:31:33:03 and until now, there have been few cases of traumatized people needing to be transferred. 01:31:33:05 01:31:36:17 There have been individual cases, where we took action when it was obvious. 01:31:36:23 01:31:41:16 That’s how it was reported to me by the reception center’s administration, 01:31:41:24 01:31:45:23 but I personally didn’t notice anything of the sort. 01:31:46:00 01:31:52:11 Neither children nor adults would have shown any signs of trauma when it banged out there. 01:32:31:21 01:32:35:19 On their homepage, European Homecare always advertises itself 01:32:35:24 01:32:38:02 by pointing out that they offer recreational activities for the refugees, 01:32:38:05 01:32:41:20 but unfortunately I haven’t seen anything of the sort. 01:32:42:12 01:32:46:19 Internet café, café, sports, all the other things… 01:32:46:24 01:32:49:11 For example, when I think of the ping-pong table they have there 01:32:49:14 01:32:51:13 it was Karlo and me who took it there. 01:32:53:08 01:32:56:15 All kinds of things that have been arranged, we actually have made it all happen 01:32:56:17 01:33:04:17 and I can’t recall anything off the top of my head, where European Homecare has invested 01:33:04:19 01:33:07:00 and offered anything to the refugees. 01:33:23:18 01:33:27:19 As far as I'm concerned, it’s actually supposed to be a state-run task to take care of the refugees. 01:33:27:21 01:33:29:18 But of course it’s always difficult, 01:33:29:18 01:33:33:12 and they picked this company because it had the know-how. 01:33:33:15 01:33:38:01 But now they mainly employed people from this region 01:33:38:10 01:33:44:02 and I have my doubts about how many of them are really experienced in this field of refugee work. 01:34:03:00 01:34:04:11 One… -One... 01:34:05:00 01:34:06:14 Euro. -Euro. 01:34:07:10 01:34:08:19 Two… -Two… 01:34:09:00 01:34:10:08 Euros. -Euros. 01:34:10:13 01:34:11:06 Euros. 01:34:11:24 01:34:13:17 Five… -Five… 01:34:13:22 01:34:15:12 Euros. -Euros. 01:34:16:15 01:34:18:09 Fifty… -Fifty… 01:34:18:13 01:34:20:15 Fifty euros. 01:34:21:06 01:34:23:15 One hundred euros… -One hundred euros… 01:34:23:22 01:34:25:21 Euros. -Euros. 01:34:31:07 01:34:32:00 Please. 01:34:32:10 01:34:33:06 Thanks. 01:34:45:06 01:34:46:04 Please. 01:34:47:06 01:34:49:03 Thank you. -Thank you. 01:34:50:05 01:34:51:00 Thank you. 01:34:51:10 01:34:53:09 Where is the train station, please? 01:34:53:16 01:34:56:14 Where is the train station, please? 01:35:57:15 01:36:00:22 It actually started pretty slowly, 01:36:01:00 01:36:06:09 because in the beginning, the first two weeks, there were only 30 refugees here in Meßstetten. 01:36:06:19 01:36:09:11 Then it slowly went up and that was ok. 01:36:09:21 01:36:13:00 But now, having 1000 refugees, that’s the limit. 01:36:16:22 01:36:19:21 This morning, I was home for 30 minutes. 01:36:20:24 01:36:22:16 But then I went shopping. 01:36:24:07 01:36:26:07 Still have to do that as well – housekeeping. 01:36:27:15 01:36:29:19 Otherwise I’ll be in trouble with my wife one day. 01:36:34:20 01:36:36:09 Now it’s pretty calm. 01:36:36:17 01:36:40:23 That’s because the café is open and a lot of people stay there, 01:36:41:15 01:36:45:04 checking in from time to time to see if it's their turn already. 01:36:45:20 01:36:48:18 In the mornings the café is closed, unfortunately, 01:36:48:21 01:36:51:15 as you sometimes have 40 people sitting here, waiting for a free computer. 01:36:51:19 01:36:54:04 That makes it really uncomfortable in here. 01:36:54:21 01:36:57:24 And this is the only option to go online, 01:36:58:01 01:37:05:02 because in Meßstetten, especially in the area of the reception center, the mobile network's very weak. 01:37:05:08 01:37:07:18 So people can’t do much with their smart phones either. 01:37:07:23 01:37:13:23 They’re actually depending on us, to skype or go online. 01:37:36:02 01:37:39:12 Well, he complained that his number had already come up, 01:37:40:00 01:37:43:24 but when it was his turn, he didn’t show his number, 01:37:44:02 01:37:46:21 and we can’t keep track of each person’s number. 01:37:47:02 01:37:49:17 So now he'll have to wait until the next computer's free. 01:37:54:06 01:37:57:06 But he's actually one of the candidates, who always rant. 01:37:58:06 01:38:00:05 After a while you just know the people, 01:38:00:12 01:38:04:22 because some of them have been here for seven or eight weeks. So you know… 01:38:05:19 01:38:06:24 They’re here since the beginning… 01:38:07:01 01:38:09:19 Yes, some people are here since the beginning. 01:38:10:10 01:38:15:15 Serbians, who have actually no chance to get a visa. 01:38:16:02 01:38:19:01 Only in very special cases do Serbians get a visa. 01:38:21:10 01:38:29:04 It’s nothing official, but apparently they stopped the deportations over winter in Baden-Württemberg. 01:38:31:05 01:38:35:11 Because usually all the Serbians would have to be sent back again. 01:38:53:03 01:38:54:15 Table soccer busted? 01:38:55:20 01:38:59:13 I’ll just leave it like that. They’ll have to play with one defense line less. 01:39:00:09 01:39:01:17 -Can’t we repair it anymore? 01:39:01:19 01:39:02:24 Well, it’s broken here… 01:39:03:02 01:39:04:06 -Oh, broken. 01:39:05:15 01:39:06:16 We could weld it… 01:39:08:16 01:39:11:10 The thing is you still have to be able to shove the piece on it, you know? 01:39:11:22 01:39:12:11 -I see. 01:39:12:15 01:39:13:13 It’s broken here. 01:39:13:21 01:39:16:19 I don’t know if maybe with a special glue, that might hold. 01:39:17:18 01:39:18:17 But I think rather not. 01:39:18:23 01:39:19:17 -Hot glue. 01:39:20:15 01:39:22:14 I’ll bring my glue-gun, later. 01:39:22:15 01:39:23:11 Maybe that could work. 01:39:23:13 01:39:24:24 -We can’t do worse than damaging it… 01:39:26:04 01:39:28:09 Yeah. If we really pack the thing full with hot glue… 01:39:29:19 01:39:31:09 It becomes a bit of a routine, 01:39:32:03 01:39:36:09 which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more boring, because now I can start taking care of other things again. 01:39:36:20 01:39:39:18 We have also increased our offered activities enormously. 01:39:40:02 01:39:45:00 If you remember, in the beginning the café was open twice a week for two hours. 01:39:45:02 01:39:47:06 And now we are open for four days a week. 01:39:47:19 01:39:53:12 Karlo figured it out, I think we’re offering activities 71 hours a week in total. 01:40:15:03 01:40:17:18 We actually wanted to visit Karlsruhe to see how they do it there. 01:40:17:20 01:40:19:21 And the guys from Karlsruhe told us, 01:40:19:24 01:40:22:22 you really don’t need to make the effort, we’re not offering them anything. 01:40:23:00 01:40:26:11 They have their blocks, they leave in the morning and they return in the evening. 01:40:27:09 01:40:28:04 And that’s it. 01:40:28:08 01:40:30:24 Their bonus is, of course, they’re in the city. 01:40:31:04 01:40:33:13 They’ve got a pile of opportunities, 01:40:33:24 01:40:38:02 they can go up town and the leisure opportunities are a little different. 01:40:38:15 01:40:42:01 They can hang out all day long in the city, that’s not possible here. 01:40:42:03 01:40:47:06 We’re a bit off the beaten track here, so you have to keep people busy. 01:40:47:16 01:40:49:00 Six euros, please. 01:40:51:02 01:40:52:12 Thanks. -Welcome. 01:40:52:15 01:40:53:20 Bye. -Bye. 01:41:21:16 01:41:24:07 Ok, so Christmas Eve should be... 01:41:24:14 01:41:26:10 I’ll take care of the access list and security staff, 01:41:26:19 01:41:28:10 Mrs. Karwath will organize the translators, 01:41:28:13 01:41:30:01 Mrs. Bremm will take care of the stamp. 01:41:30:10 01:41:34:22 I’ll be around in the beginning, see that everything works out fine and then I’d pull out. 01:41:35:00 01:41:36:16 -Maybe take a couple of pictures. 01:41:36:19 01:41:38:06 Yeah, maybe take a couple of pictures. 01:41:38:09 01:41:39:12 -Well, I'll definitely be there. 01:41:39:14 01:41:41:09 Oh, well. Great. 01:41:42:14 01:41:44:00 I’ll also come and take some pictures. 01:41:47:00 01:41:49:13 -I’ll be gone at three the latest. 01:41:50:02 01:41:52:06 Alright, Christmas Eve, checked. 01:41:52:23 01:41:54:14 Next thing is New Year’s Eve. 01:41:55:13 01:41:59:03 What's New Year's Eve gonna be like? How is that planned? 01:41:59:17 01:42:01:12 Nothing is planned. Just to be closed. 01:42:02:08 01:42:04:08 That’s when it gets tricky with our employees. 01:42:04:11 01:42:08:20 They also wanna… That day they also want to party a little, right? 01:42:09:09 01:42:12:05 -Of course. That's really a problem. 01:42:13:09 01:42:16:05 How many did you... have you already made a roster? 01:42:16:12 01:42:17:13 That’s done, yes. 01:42:17:16 01:42:22:21 So, New Year’s Eve… In the evening, three people at the max. 01:42:23:01 01:42:25:02 And night shift is only one person anyway. 01:42:26:04 01:42:27:09 One guy on New Year’s Eve? 01:42:28:21 01:42:30:04 He’ll be really happy. 01:42:30:17 01:42:32:14 What’s the plan with fireworks on the grounds, 01:42:32:16 01:42:33:20 how do we prevent that? 01:42:33:22 01:42:35:19 Especially firecrackers and such? -That’s the security’s job. 01:42:35:21 01:42:37:07 Security has to prevent that. 01:42:37:10 01:42:41:21 But we'll inform everybody beforehand with “No Firework”-signs. 01:42:42:10 01:42:45:01 They’ll think twice if they still want to buy it. 01:42:45:05 01:42:47:05 I mean, we’ll not take it from them and fire it ourselves, 01:42:47:08 01:42:51:01 but we’ll tell them, if they want to… Outside. 01:42:51:03 01:42:52:23 -The risk of accidents or fire is just too severe. 01:42:53:06 01:42:54:13 New Year’s… 01:42:55:00 01:42:57:04 -Alright, we’ll have to think about that again. 01:42:57:09 01:42:59:22 You probably can’t get more staff together, can you? 01:43:01:13 01:43:04:17 -Anyway, the volunteers are out. 01:43:05:12 01:43:07:21 That’s the most important information for the moment. 01:43:08:12 01:43:11:06 Soon St. Nicholas Eve is here! 01:43:11:11 01:43:15:06 When I rise (in the morning) 01:43:15:09 01:43:19:00 I dash quickly to the plate. 01:43:19:06 01:43:22:09 Jolly, jolly, tralera-lera, 01:43:22:13 01:43:25:13 Soon St. Nicholas Eve is here! 01:43:25:17 01:43:29:20 Soon St. Nicholas Eve is here! 01:43:30:22 01:43:32:07 Hello children. 01:43:32:22 01:43:36:03 -Hello. 01:43:37:11 01:43:38:20 Please, sit down. 01:43:51:08 01:43:52:05 Alright, 01:43:53:17 01:43:55:11 listen to me. 01:44:00:02 01:44:04:02 You are… I’ve heard you haven’t always been as good as gold. 01:44:04:10 01:44:07:06 You’re beating, spitting and also breaking things. 01:44:07:18 01:44:10:22 And then I also heard you don’t like to tidy up. 01:44:20:05 01:44:23:05 Will you promise to be better next year? 01:44:32:20 01:44:35:02 Come here, Perivan. 01:44:36:04 01:44:37:11 Perivan? 01:44:40:01 01:44:41:06 Come here. Come…Step up. 01:44:41:14 01:44:43:04 Perivan, go to St. Nicholas. 01:44:55:11 01:44:56:03 You’re welcome. 01:45:01:18 01:45:03:20 Then we have.. 01:45:04:02 01:45:05:04 Khalia… 01:45:22:00 01:45:23:10 That belongs to me. 01:45:24:04 01:45:26:17 Let's see what else I got here. 01:46:22:13 01:46:23:13 Great garland. 01:46:30:08 01:46:31:11 We're looking for the mother. 01:46:36:08 01:46:38:10 Girl or boy? -It’s a boy. 01:46:38:13 01:46:41:14 Because he’s got polished nails… -Yeah, the boys do that sometimes. 01:46:41:17 01:46:42:19 Ah, ok... 01:46:42:22 01:46:45:04 I was slightly confused. 01:47:00:03 01:47:01:10 Have you got the time? 01:47:01:13 01:47:02:04 Yes. 01:47:02:07 01:47:03:10 It’s 9.30. 01:47:14:14 01:47:15:18 That’s women’s. 01:47:15:22 01:47:20:06 Ok, so… Put everything over here and one piece at a time. 01:47:36:10 01:47:37:18 One, 01:47:38:21 01:47:39:20 two, 01:47:42:22 01:47:44:06 three sweaters. 01:47:45:07 01:47:46:10 That’s ok, right? 01:47:49:06 01:47:49:22 Three, 01:47:52:21 01:47:53:17 one, 01:47:53:20 01:47:54:23 two, 01:47:55:23 01:47:57:24 one, two... 01:48:02:13 01:48:07:19 We started out with 33. We knew almost all of them in person. 01:48:08:00 01:48:10:15 And we'd still have the time to have conversations with them. 01:48:11:11 01:48:15:02 Especially the Syrians, who all spoke an excellent English. 01:48:15:16 01:48:17:11 We were in touch, 01:48:17:14 01:48:20:07 they said goodbye to us with a hand shake, 01:48:20:19 01:48:22:19 told us where they were sent to. 01:48:23:07 01:48:29:17 Sometimes we were really sad, because we had built up a sort of relationship, also to the children. 01:48:30:04 01:48:33:20 And that’s of course completely different with 1000 or even 1200 people. 01:48:33:23 01:48:36:20 And of course also the transfers go way faster now. 01:48:36:23 01:48:41:08 The first people stayed for six, seven weeks, or even eight. 01:48:42:00 01:48:44:15 That's totally changed. 01:48:52:20 01:48:55:06 Whole legions are coming again. 01:48:55:13 01:48:58:12 Again, whole legions are coming. -Yes, yes, now they’re going shopping again. 01:48:58:15 01:49:03:01 Yeah, they always take this… -Well, that's the closest route. 01:49:03:05 01:49:04:12 -Absolutely. 01:49:05:01 01:49:07:02 -They'd never walk along the street. 01:49:07:20 01:49:10:10 Up from down there. -No, as that would be a longer way. 01:49:10:18 01:49:12:07 Via Bueloch, that’s a detour. -That’s the closest route. 01:49:12:11 01:49:14:13 That’s the closest route, yes. 01:49:16:05 01:49:18:15 We’ve run this place for 48 years. 01:49:19:06 01:49:21:03 I am self-employed for 48 years now. 01:49:21:07 01:49:24:01 This is my wife and my daughter, it’s a family business. 01:49:24:11 01:49:25:04 Yes, yes. 01:49:26:09 01:49:27:13 -And you are a Meßstetten native? 01:49:27:18 01:49:29:16 Yes, sure, born here. 01:49:29:21 01:49:33:20 The customer, who’s just walking to the back, she’s an old class mate of mine. 01:49:34:08 01:49:35:04 Same age. 01:49:35:16 01:49:38:10 We’re going to be 100 in 21 years, aren’t we, Renate? 01:49:38:13 01:49:40:16 -Yes, yes. We’re born in Meßstetten. 01:49:43:17 01:49:46:19 Well, people used to go and see the reverend, nowadays they go see the hairdresser 01:49:47:01 01:49:51:12 to get whatever off their chest. 01:49:52:09 01:49:55:00 It can be too much sometimes. 01:49:55:03 01:49:57:12 You know, they come with stories… 01:49:58:07 01:50:02:01 Mr. Kästle is it true? They all wear shoes size 12 – 14? 01:50:02:13 01:50:04:08 I tell them, how can I know? 01:50:05:24 01:50:07:08 All sorts of that gossip. 01:50:10:03 01:50:11:15 Yes, yes. 01:50:12:14 01:50:13:24 Refugee, refugee, refugee. 01:50:17:22 01:50:21:23 And I’d say, for the biggest part that’s customers from out of town. 01:50:24:07 01:50:30:16 And they come with absolutely wild things. 01:50:31:01 01:50:33:01 Renate, you can explain that the best 01:50:35:24 01:50:37:09 ...what you experienced. 01:50:38:07 01:50:41:03 Last night at my daughter’s, 01:50:41:12 01:50:43:06 my son-in-law said, 01:50:43:10 01:50:46:01 in Heinstetten they’re saying, 01:50:46:13 01:50:49:17 in Meßstetten you couldn’t be on the street at night anymore, 01:50:49:24 01:50:54:16 because of all the refugees, and people are scared of what they might do to them. 01:50:54:24 01:50:57:12 So I had to say, none of that is true! 01:50:57:15 01:51:01:11 You don’t see any refugees in the evenings anymore. 01:51:01:15 01:51:06:03 They have a long way from the barracks up here. 01:51:06:10 01:51:13:01 And there haven’t been any fights or anything like that. 01:51:13:16 01:51:15:24 It's really calm. 01:51:16:11 01:51:19:08 Also in the shops and so on. 01:51:19:16 01:51:21:14 You really can’t complain. 01:51:21:23 01:51:23:14 They’re very decent! 01:51:26:13 01:51:32:23 I think the best place to observe how Meßstetten is changing is the bus stop. 01:51:33:05 01:51:37:09 It’s not two people waiting for the bus anymore, it’s 25 now or 30. 01:51:38:01 01:51:42:02 Also the behavior, how they sometimes rush into the shops, 01:51:42:05 01:51:46:03 I mean, sometimes I do sympathise with the shop owners or merchants, 01:51:46:06 01:51:50:24 when suddenly 15 people enter your shop. 01:51:51:02 01:51:55:02 I understand they have a little jitter. 01:51:56:10 01:52:03:08 You know, of course Meßstetten also has 1000 inhabitants more now, 01:52:03:11 01:52:06:02 I think we’ve slipped over the 10.000 again. 01:52:06:05 01:52:09:09 That also means more subsidies. More financial resources. 01:52:11:11 01:52:15:22 The people who come here stay between maybe four, six or eight weeks. 01:52:16:05 01:52:21:15 They'll never become real Meßstetten locals, sure. That’s obvious. 01:52:21:18 01:52:28:04 But I think, those people, we have to accept them, they're refugees, who've experienced huge misfortune, 01:52:28:08 01:52:32:18 and we have to give them a chance. They have to stay somewhere. 01:52:32:24 01:52:35:16 If they couldn’t stay in Meßstetten, they’d have to stay somewhere else. 01:52:35:19 01:52:40:10 Of course, Karl is also right saying, 20% of the population, 01:52:40:17 01:52:43:17 that’s a huge part. 01:52:43:20 01:52:45:04 That’s right. 01:52:45:13 01:52:51:08 But the shops definitely benefit from it. 01:52:51:18 01:52:55:15 Every shop in Meßstetten is benefitting from the asylum seekers. 01:53:00:20 01:53:04:11 Recently there was a family here, or a couple, 01:53:04:14 01:53:07:05 they said, they’re from Nussplingen 01:53:07:08 01:53:09:15 they say they've started going to Wehingen for shopping, 01:53:09:18 01:53:11:11 which is in an entirely different direction. 01:53:11:14 01:53:14:00 This morning someone from Hossingen was here, 01:53:14:09 01:53:18:01 a young man, they started going to – that’s all referring to groceries, 01:53:18:04 01:53:23:19 I’ve got to add that – they rather go down to Ebingen or Balingen. 01:53:26:23 01:53:28:15 It's also said, that shoplifting here… 01:53:28:18 01:53:30:13 But we for example, still can’t say anything about that at all. 01:53:30:16 01:53:35:05 Just now, there was a family here from Iran. 01:53:35:12 01:53:38:14 They’ve been here three or four times already. Really decent people, I have to say. 01:53:39:17 01:53:45:12 Of course, when five, six people enter, it happens that you feel just a little uneasy. 01:53:45:15 01:53:48:19 When you have climbing guys and so on, 01:53:48:23 01:53:52:02 it’s just really easy going, 01:53:52:05 01:53:56:02 but with the refugees you always have that little… You’re always a little unrelaxed, I have to say. 01:53:58:14 01:54:01:17 We notice it quite often these days, 01:54:01:19 01:54:03:00 and you also notice it through conversations. 01:54:03:03 01:54:05:24 We explain what the difference is between CS-Gas and pepper spray. 01:54:06:11 01:54:08:15 When and how you’re allowed to use it. 01:54:08:18 01:54:10:13 And we also ask them. 01:54:10:19 01:54:12:19 What’s the person up to? 01:54:12:22 01:54:16:12 When someone goes for walks a lot, and there are dogs running free, 01:54:16:15 01:54:18:09 of course you’ll give them a pepper spray, right. 01:54:18:21 01:54:23:06 But now it’s… But there were people who say they’re feeling uneasy here… 01:54:25:19 01:54:33:24 As I said we have a lot of customers who… All kinds of nationalities, 01:54:34:02 01:54:35:13 from the security guys, 01:54:35:16 01:54:41:01 Croatians, Serbians, German-Russians, Slovenians, Czechs and so on. 01:54:41:07 01:54:43:07 And we never had problems in that respect. 01:54:43:15 01:54:48:24 There isn’t a founding of some kind of xenophobic initiation, or something, but… 01:54:49:02 01:54:52:05 Yeah, it’s just… 01:54:52:19 01:54:57:10 When they come in with the six or seven of them, that’s a little uncomfortable. 01:54:57:13 01:55:02:22 A little more modesty, a little more discipline maybe… I wouldn’t mind that. 01:55:19:03 01:55:25:04 We'll just have to see, how we deal especially with the refugees from the Balkan countries. 01:55:25:07 01:55:30:17 If the numbers of arrivals from the Balkan countries will remain this high, 01:55:31:01 01:55:32:23 acceptance is dwindling more and more, 01:55:33:01 01:55:35:22 and we can notice that here. 01:55:36:06 01:55:40:12 Concerning that I think something has to change. 01:55:40:15 01:55:48:20 We just have to try and significantly improve the conditions in those countries. 01:55:48:24 01:55:52:07 I know, it’s incredibly complex and easy to say that, 01:55:52:12 01:55:58:03 but for us it’s just really complicated 01:55:58:07 01:56:04:07 to accommodate such a high inflow of people and to bring that in line with the locals in such a small town. 01:56:28:18 01:56:29:18 He's the best! 01:56:41:12 01:56:43:04 What did Frau Uhl-Künzig say? 01:56:43:14 01:56:45:20 Every newborn needs a stroller. 01:56:46:04 01:56:48:12 Every newborn? Well of course, right? 01:56:48:15 01:56:52:14 We couldn’t afford that at all. A stroller is 380 euros. -Yes, I didn’t get a go from Essen. 01:56:52:17 01:56:53:10 Ah, I see.... 01:56:53:18 01:56:55:13 Hello! -Hello together! 01:56:55:19 01:56:56:10 Hello! 01:56:56:13 01:56:58:18 Let's say hi to everybody. -Let’s say hi. Right. 01:57:09:03 01:57:10:22 I don't think we have to introduce ourselves. 01:57:11:00 01:57:13:06 I believe... we're already known. 01:57:13:09 01:57:16:17 Mrs. Karwath, Mrs. Bremm also is a staff member of European Homecare, 01:57:16:20 01:57:20:01 she's responsible for clothing distribution and also for child care. 01:57:21:06 01:57:26:16 I almost have to apologize for offering this long overdue tour only now. 01:57:26:19 01:57:28:24 I thought about it every now and then 01:57:29:02 01:57:30:22 and people always approached me, 01:57:31:02 01:57:36:11 well, I'm really sorry it took such a long time to give you the opportunity to visit the facility. 01:57:36:24 01:57:39:06 Now, we want to show you everything 01:57:39:08 01:57:47:07 so you get to see where and how the people who you have often met at the community center live. 01:57:47:16 01:57:49:01 Also the changes that have been made, 01:57:49:04 01:57:51:24 as most of you probably have seen the barracks before. 01:57:54:05 01:57:57:08 There are still many rumors in Meßstetten, 01:57:57:11 01:58:01:11 I recently read a letter from a reader to an editor in Sigmaringen. 01:58:01:14 01:58:03:15 It was really bad, 01:58:03:21 01:58:09:23 It said somebody was beaten up in the canteen 01:58:10:09 01:58:13:19 by a waitress, that’s a quote, after she asked for a slice of cheese 01:58:13:22 01:58:15:16 and the woman is sitting in hospital now... 01:58:15:21 01:58:21:12 wait, nonsense, in a wheelchair! Sitting in a wheelchair! It was that bad. 01:58:22:00 01:58:26:17 And those incidents were swept under the table by the state. 01:58:26:24 01:58:30:09 So, if anybody else read that: it is not true! 01:58:30:12 01:58:36:20 It’s definitely not the case that we let people get beaten up and put into hospital or even put into wheelchairs. 01:58:37:07 01:58:38:23 It's not true! Alright. 01:58:44:20 01:58:47:14 Here, you can see the basic clothing for children. 01:58:47:17 01:58:50:06 That’s like a rule of thumb. 01:58:50:20 01:58:53:00 This is the basic clothing for ladies and gents 01:58:53:03 01:58:57:17 and on this side it’s basic clothing for babies. 01:58:57:24 01:59:02:04 Up to one year. Naturally, they need more than a five year old. 01:59:02:23 01:59:10:03 We established the basic clothing, because without it we had some piles this high and others that low. 01:59:10:20 01:59:15:17 This way it’s fair, that’s how we register it, and it applies for everybody. 01:59:15:24 01:59:20:02 People have ten minutes to choose their basic clothing, 01:59:20:13 01:59:23:18 but they can return later for more. 01:59:24:03 01:59:27:20 I know, people rant that we have this 10 minute time frame. 01:59:27:23 01:59:32:04 On Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday afternoon we’re open from 3 to 5 pm, 01:59:32:07 01:59:35:08 although often we have to stay open until 6 pm. 01:59:35:21 01:59:37:15 Then it’s 50... -Why can’t you do it more often? 01:59:37:18 01:59:40:12 That’s an important question. 01:59:40:15 01:59:41:12 -Because it’s enough. 01:59:41:16 01:59:47:04 Then we could go up from ten minutes to twenty or even half an hour. 01:59:48:01 01:59:52:22 -Ten minutes is an adequate time for choosing the basic clothing. 01:59:53:19 01:59:55:22 If it’s families, of course the children are with them. 01:59:56:00 02:00:00:24 So if we have a family of ten, no one else is allowed in apart from the family, 02:00:01:02 02:00:03:24 because otherwise it becomes too chaotic. -And also only 10 minutes for the families? 02:00:04:02 02:00:09:00 Yes… No, the families get more, because we add two minutes per child. 02:00:10:02 02:00:15:03 So 10 minutes plus two minutes per child. 02:00:15:09 02:00:19:06 -Why can’t you open in the mornings and be open all three days? 02:00:19:09 02:00:23:15 Right, to just make it a little… -Well, but I guess this is a process. You have to slowly… 02:00:24:23 02:00:30:05 -Usually they're here for three to four weeks. Then they leave again. 02:00:31:06 02:00:34:03 -We really had to get some structure in it. 02:00:34:16 02:00:40:01 It is still in process, but I think we’re on the right track now, also with house 48. 02:00:40:04 02:00:42:24 Well, if it works out. It’s ok. 02:00:43:02 02:00:46:05 -It really works fine, the system’s really fine now. 02:00:46:09 02:00:48:00 Then it’s fine. -It’s ok then. 02:00:48:03 02:00:50:02 For everyone who works in the café, 02:00:50:05 02:00:57:02 if you see a “BüMa”, a batch card, that says “blocked” in yellow letters, 02:00:57:12 02:01:00:05 please talk it over with me, 02:01:00:11 02:01:04:15 because there have been rumors saying we wouldn’t hand out anything to people, on purpose. 02:01:04:18 02:01:06:15 -Serbians don’t get any clothes here anyway... 02:01:06:18 02:01:09:05 Right, Serbians don’t get any clothes anyway, 02:01:09:07 02:01:10:13 especially not from me, 02:01:10:16 02:01:11:12 so it’s… 02:01:12:17 02:01:13:24 -That’s for me, again.... 02:01:14:02 02:01:14:23 That’s a different subject. 02:01:15:01 02:01:18:21 Yes, but still. I also want to address that to you again. 02:01:18:24 02:01:21:20 So this is a reception center for asylum seekers, 02:01:21:23 02:01:29:22 which means we accommodate refugees who come here to apply for asylum. 02:01:31:13 02:01:32:15 Everybody has the right to do so. 02:01:32:22 02:01:35:02 Regardless where you come from, 02:01:35:06 02:01:36:21 well EU is a different story. 02:01:36:24 02:01:41:00 But every refugee who comes here generally has the right to file an application. 02:01:41:03 02:01:43:16 And nobody can refuse that... 02:01:43:19 02:01:46:17 You can apply for all sorts of things, even if it's not successful in the end. 02:01:46:21 02:01:49:15 But you have to be allowed to file that application. 02:01:49:21 02:01:52:24 And those people are here to file that application, 02:01:53:02 02:01:55:08 no matter how it'll be decided on. That's a different story, 02:01:55:11 02:01:59:17 but it's crucial for me that during that time, they're here legitimately. 02:01:59:20 02:02:01:21 And so you have to treat every person equally. 02:02:01:24 02:02:07:24 We can’t allow the Arabs 15 minutes and the Serbs only 5 minutes during clothing distribution. 02:02:08:02 02:02:13:22 No, really... graphically spoken, but it’s just very important that everybody is treated as equals 02:02:14:05 02:02:17:10 and we certainly don't make a difference between the nationalities 02:02:17:13 02:02:18:21 since that just can't be. 02:02:18:24 02:02:22:12 And every person has that right, you do have it in all kinds situations in life 02:02:22:15 02:02:24:12 and so do the asylum seekers who come here. 02:02:24:16 02:02:28:02 And during that time everybody has to be treated as equal. That's really very important to me, 02:02:28:06 02:02:29:08 alright? 02:02:59:19 02:03:03:15 Probably, we’ll have new facilities for sorting cloths to our disposal, 02:03:03:18 02:03:07:20 so the hall upstairs won’t be occupied all the time anymore, and we won’t have to empty it regularly. 02:03:08:09 02:03:12:14 We’ll visit it tomorrow, together with Mrs. Karwath. 02:03:12:21 02:03:17:23 That way, we can organize the collection much better. 02:03:46:09 02:03:50:02 That’s perfect for sorting and emptying the boxes and stuff. 02:03:50:05 02:03:51:08 It's perfect! 02:03:51:14 02:03:54:03 One side sorting, the other one storage… 02:03:54:06 02:03:59:22 We’ll discuss that in the meeting and explain, why it really makes sense to get the clothing store up here. 02:04:00:00 02:04:00:22 It’s in Mr. Maier’s interest as well… 02:04:01:00 02:04:03:23 We’d have storage, that’s amazing. 02:04:04:15 02:04:06:10 Well, plan a, we can have it. 02:04:07:03 02:04:09:10 Tuesday cleaning, shelves 02:04:10:05 02:04:12:23 and we won’t sort anything in house 15. 02:04:13:02 02:04:14:19 Now, plan b, in case we can’t have it… 02:04:14:22 02:04:15:23 -Plan b, it just goes on as it was. 02:04:16:03 02:04:17:18 That’s not an option. 02:04:17:21 02:04:20:02 We’d have to clear the other place every four weeks, 02:04:20:05 02:04:21:15 we agreed we don’t want that. 02:04:21:18 02:04:24:12 We’ll have to think of another place for sorting, then. 02:04:24:15 02:04:28:08 Furthermore, in the beginning, many people came who were enthusiastic about helping. 02:04:28:15 02:04:30:08 But after some time, that ceases. 02:04:30:11 02:04:32:22 And if those who’re here now decided to stop, 02:04:33:08 02:04:34:09 you could shut the place down. 02:04:34:12 02:04:35:06 So, it has to happen. 02:04:35:09 02:04:37:06 That’s exactly why I let Mr. Maier know the other day, 02:04:37:09 02:04:40:03 if that’s what you want, you’ll be alone with you’re blue bags in the end. 02:04:40:11 02:04:45:05 It’s up to you. Either things change, or we’ll quit! 02:04:47:11 02:04:48:20 We’ll have to see how it develops. 02:04:49:02 02:04:51:05 We’re not making a fortune here. 02:04:51:08 02:04:53:24 It has to be fun, if it’s no fun anymore, 02:04:54:09 02:04:57:06 or you’re not taken seriously, if you’re feeling used, 02:04:57:09 02:04:59:01 it might come to a quick end. 02:04:59:23 02:05:03:07 Regarding the internet café: Yesterday for example, 02:05:03:13 02:05:05:22 we were open from 9 am to 9 pm, 02:05:07:01 02:05:09:06 we hand out reservation cards now. 02:05:09:11 02:05:16:03 At 1.30 pm I gave away the last reservation for the whole day. 02:05:17:11 02:05:19:10 -So how many people were online? 02:05:19:12 02:05:22:15 Yesterday there were 215 people. 02:05:28:07 02:05:30:08 In the beginning we actually took care of everything. 02:05:30:14 02:05:31:15 -Absolutely, right… 02:05:32:13 02:05:35:01 Another funny thing is, I was even accused of being a liar, 02:05:35:04 02:05:38:04 because I said house 15 is full of unsorted cloths. 02:05:38:07 02:05:42:00 And the woman responsible for the clothing store goes: "You haven’t even seen it." 02:05:42:14 02:05:46:10 "And apart from that, it’s not much at all, and it's presorted. I should know!" 02:05:46:14 02:05:50:06 So they refused to give me the key for house 15, I wasn’t allowed to go in there anymore. 02:05:50:17 02:05:54:10 I went to Mr. Maier and told him, I’ll immediately quit if I don’t get this key now. 02:05:55:02 02:05:57:20 He organized it and then we went in there. 02:05:57:23 02:06:04:11 We took three truck loads of unsorted clothes out of that supposedly empty hall. 02:06:04:24 02:06:07:09 And I have to take being called a liar. 02:06:07:23 02:06:10:10 Haven’t heard any apologies yet. 02:06:13:01 02:06:15:16 Thanks God, we went there with the three of us. Maier, Sauter and I. 02:06:15:19 02:06:17:12 And then later with Mrs. Karwath. 02:06:17:15 02:06:19:24 She threw her hands up in horror. 02:06:24:16 02:06:28:20 But then Maier put his foot down so now we’re hoping things will improve. 02:07:20:14 02:07:23:09 Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, dear guests, 02:07:24:07 02:07:28:16 I'm very happy that you all accepted our invitation tonight 02:07:28:19 02:07:31:15 and I'm very happy that we all fit in here. 02:07:31:23 02:07:37:08 I especially want to thank everybody who helped to prepare this evening, 02:07:37:13 02:07:42:01 who baked or helped bring all the equipment here. 02:07:42:06 02:07:47:09 Thank you so much for supporting us and our work at the reception center. 02:07:47:13 02:07:50:00 And now we're looking forward to the evening’s program! 02:08:01:11 02:08:08:10 So, Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth to Bethlehem. 02:08:09:11 02:08:15:02 He went there to register with Mary, who was expecting a child. 02:08:30:07 02:08:34:12 But there was no room for them in the inn. 02:08:49:14 02:08:50:14 Merry Christmas! 02:08:50:18 02:08:52:21 -Thanks, to you too! 02:08:54:15 02:08:56:19 Merry Christmas! -Merry Christmas! 02:09:07:12 02:09:09:00 -How's the soccer going? 02:09:10:11 02:09:12:20 Well, when we offered it last time, 02:09:13:14 02:09:15:14 Dieter Ludolph and I went down there, 02:09:15:24 02:09:18:03 waited for half an hour, but no one showed up. 02:09:18:18 02:09:23:17 So we went up, and Mrs. Karwath and Mr. Maier told us it was pay day. 02:09:23:20 02:09:26:11 So no one’s going to play soccer. Everybody's going shopping. 02:09:28:18 02:09:31:08 When they get money, nobody plays soccer. 02:09:33:08 02:09:38:01 Another day, we offered it in the morning. At noon I met one guy from Somalia 02:09:38:04 02:09:38:23 and asked him 02:09:50:15 02:09:51:10 So I said, ok, 02:10:02:00 02:10:02:18 How are you doing? 02:10:03:10 02:10:04:01 -Good. 02:10:06:11 02:10:09:05 School, you’ll still have to go to school in Germany. 02:10:21:21 02:10:26:01 The other day we came down here, they were playing shot put down here. 02:10:28:04 02:10:29:23 Had to stop that of course. 02:11:23:21 02:11:27:24 Yes, the problem was, we had up to 40 people sitting in here, 02:11:28:02 02:11:29:13 waiting for their turn 02:11:29:15 02:11:33:22 and it was so noisy and chaotic, it was not feasible anymore. 02:11:34:24 02:11:38:03 And in that mess tickets got stolen 02:11:38:20 02:11:40:09 that actually had already been used 02:11:40:12 02:11:44:07 but thankfully we had written down the numbers. So we immediately knew they were stolen. 02:11:44:22 02:11:50:20 Also we learned that our tickets people got here, 02:11:50:23 02:11:53:01 were sold up in the camp. 02:11:53:05 02:11:57:10 We don’t know exactly how much a ticket was sold for. But that they were sold at all, 02:11:57:14 02:12:02:03 we thought, it wasn’t acceptable, that we invest our free time 02:12:02:06 02:12:05:11 to offer something for the refugees free of charge 02:12:05:14 02:12:09:11 and at the same time a few refugees – of course it's always just a few single people who do that – 02:12:09:13 02:12:12:18 but some do earn money with that. 02:12:13:04 02:12:15:04 So we thought of something new. 02:12:15:19 02:12:18:05 We also wanted it to be more just, 02:12:18:08 02:12:22:04 in the way that more people should get access to the internet and not always only the same people, 02:12:22:08 02:12:23:21 as it used to be for some time. 02:12:24:18 02:12:30:08 So we tinkered ourselves a little application, where we enter the ID-Numbers 02:12:31:00 02:12:33:22 and immediately see whether a number was entered before, 02:12:34:00 02:12:36:24 so we can tell people, they have already been online that day. 02:12:37:09 02:12:39:11 They get no internet access again, 02:12:39:19 02:12:41:16 So that more – bye… 02:12:42:00 02:12:45:05 So that just more people have the chance to go online. 02:12:48:24 02:12:51:02 The motivation had diminished a little, 02:12:52:14 02:12:57:21 due to the circumstances in here, the noise, the stolen tickets, people being unfriendly... 02:12:58:05 02:13:02:11 But now we have ten people max at the computers, 02:13:02:14 02:13:06:12 they're busy, and ten others who wait. So that has settled. 02:13:06:22 02:13:09:07 It doesn’t blow up as easily as it used to. 02:13:09:21 02:13:13:17 So, it’s comfortable again and more fun. 02:13:18:23 02:13:20:21 The gladiators are coming. How did you put it again? 02:13:21:05 02:13:23:08 The gladiators are upstairs already. -The three musketeers. 02:13:23:11 02:13:25:01 The gladiators are upstairs already. 02:13:25:04 02:13:27:01 No, the musketeers, that’s what you said. 02:13:43:21 02:13:47:01 For me it's especially rewarding, 02:13:47:21 02:13:51:10 to be Prime Minister of a federal state, 02:13:52:08 02:13:56:08 whose citizens, whose cities and communes, 02:13:57:04 02:14:02:03 whose churches, organizations and institutions 02:14:02:21 02:14:10:00 welcome foreigners from all over the world openly, a role model in correctness and friendliness. 02:14:12:18 02:14:17:06 We've always been aware even with our best efforts, 02:14:18:03 02:14:27:15 government and administration were not able to fulfill their responsibilities, if it wasn’t for the help of others. 02:14:28:08 02:14:35:24 I want to thank you from my heart, for this great collaboration. 02:14:37:07 02:14:39:12 For example thanks to Mayor Mennig. 02:14:39:24 02:14:44:02 A small commune at the Swabian Alb, 02:14:45:04 02:14:47:20 masters this challenge, 02:14:47:23 02:14:51:03 also with the help of District Administrator Pauli. 02:14:51:14 02:14:55:06 And it's an excellent example, 02:14:55:17 02:15:00:21 that once the responsible people speak and act in the right direction, 02:15:01:08 02:15:04:19 it's possible to have the people’s support. 02:15:04:22 02:15:11:09 I think that was exemplary, Mayor Mennig, and serves as a blueprint throughout Germany. 02:15:11:14 02:15:13:04 Thank you very much for that! 02:15:24:04 02:15:27:06 They're gonna make you really famous. 02:15:27:23 02:15:32:05 We hope to keep up the good atmoshere for a while. -Yes. 02:16:15:15 02:16:17:19 Welcome! 02:16:18:13 02:16:20:03 Thank you! 02:16:30:00 02:16:32:11 Your call is on hold. Please hold the line. 02:16:34:19 02:16:39:13 The number you have dialed is busy. Your call is on hold. Please hold the line. 02:16:41:19 02:16:46:04 The number you have dialed is busy. Your call is on hold. Please hold the line. 02:16:46:08 02:16:51:08 The access to folders of your network is… 02:17:00:16 02:17:03:20 It’s so quiet today. That’s confusing. -It’s strange, yes. 02:17:04:09 02:17:06:15 Well, that’s when TV's here.